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[livejournal.com profile] zabieru asked me if I'd be willing to host a discussion amongst the guys on their take on the "Epidemic" of false rape accusations that gets trotted out every time I, or any other woman, starts to talk about rape.

Yes, I know, I'm not so good at reining in the bias about this topic.

So, I'll be turning this over to the guys. I will not edit. I will not delete unless the venom and name-calling get out of hand. I will let the guys have this discussion, and urge the girls to let them have it as well. If you fear it will be too triggering, don't read it.

This post is ALL about the comments, so it's in their hands.

Re: polimicks

Date: 2008-10-31 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polimicks.livejournal.com
I'll check out Kanin, but you do realize that an awful lot of recanting happens because women (and men) are afraid of who they are accusing, or the accused friends and family... Or just don't want to go through the trial and all the horrible crap that goes with it.

It really isn't as simple as "Oh, she recanted, it obviously isn't true."

Re: polimicks

Date: 2008-10-31 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falserapeguy.livejournal.com
Prof. Kanin specifically considered the recanting issue and determined it was not a problem. And check my Web site -- recantations almost always occur in the face of overwhelming evidence (no, not lie detector evidence) that a lie has been told. But virtually NO false rape claims are classified as "false" without it, so the odds are good that there are many more false claims than recantations. A recantation is generally the inevitable confession after the accuser's story has completely fallen apart.

This is not directed at you because you seem open-minded, but isn't it amusing that feminists claim women don't lie about rape -- EXCEPT when it comes to recanting. And what of the obvious corollary: Men accused of rape who claim the woman made a false report invariably lie, and men accused of rape who confess to it invariably are telling the truth.

Did you get that? Any time someone speaks in a manner intended to send a male to prison for a rape accusation, they are telling the truth. Any time someone speaks in a manner intended to keep a male out of prison for an alleged rape, that is a lie.

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